SKUs and Prices

Anno 2014, the only competition for the Xeon E7 v2 are the—ranging from expensive to "Exa" expensive—Oracle Superclusters, the relatively "cheap" but lowly specced IBM Power 710/720 Server Express line, or the powerful but rather expensive IBM Power 760-780 server line. As a result, the prices for Ivy Bridge EX are a lot more "RISCy". Intel feels that you should get 20% to 50% more performance for the same amount of money...

... but feels that a premium price is warranted for the two top models (4890 and 4880 v2) that offer higher performance increases. That leads to some hefty price tages:

One of the most interesting SKUs seems to be the Xeon E7-8857 v2, a native 12-core at a pretty high 3GHz clock, and which only costs 60% of the other top models.

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  • JohanAnandtech - Saturday, February 22, 2014 - link

    I meant, I have never seen an independent review of high-end IBM or SUN systems. We did one back in the T1 days, but the product performed only well in a very small niche.
  • Phil_Oracle - Monday, February 24, 2014 - link

    Contact your Oracle rep and I am sure we'd be glad to loan you a SPARC T5 server, which we have in our loaner pool for analysts and press. Would be nice if you had a more objective view on comparisons.
  • Phil_Oracle - Monday, February 24, 2014 - link

    If you look at Oracles Performance/Benchmark blog, we have comparisons between Xeon, Power and SPARC based on all publicly available benchmarks. As Oracle sells both x86 as well as SPARC, we sometimes have benchmarks available on both platforms to compare.

    https://blogs.oracle.com/BestPerf/
  • Will Robinson - Saturday, February 22, 2014 - link

    Intel and their CPU technology continues to impress.
    Those kind of performance increase numbers must leave their competitors gasping on the mat.
    Props for the smart new chip. +1
  • Nogoodnms - Saturday, February 22, 2014 - link

    But can it run Crysis?
  • errorr - Saturday, February 22, 2014 - link

    My wife would now the answer to this considering she works for ibm but considering software costs far exceed hardware costs on a life cycle basis does anyone know what the licensing costs are between the different platforms.

    She once had me sit down to explain to her how CPU upgrades would effect db2 licenses. The system is more arcane and I'm not sure what the cost of each core is.

    For an ERP each chip type has a rated pvu metric from IBM which determines the cost of the license. Are RISC cores priced differently than x86 cores enough to partially make up the hardware costs?
  • JohanAnandtech - Sunday, February 23, 2014 - link

    I know Oracle does that (risc core <> x86 core when it comes to licensing), but I must admit, Licensing is extremely boring for a technical motivated person :-).
  • Phil_Oracle - Monday, February 24, 2014 - link

    In total cost of ownership calculations, where both HW and SW as well as maintenance costs are calculated, the majority of the costs (upwards of 90%) are associated with software licensing and maintenance/administration- so although HW costs matter, it’s the performance of the HW that drives the TCO. For Oracle, both Xeon and SPARC have a per core license factor of .5x, meaning 1 x license for every two cores, while Itanium and Power have a 1x multiplier, so therefore Itanium/Power must have a 2x performance/core advantage to have equivalent SW licensing costs. IBM has a PVU scale for SW licensing, which essentially is similar to Oracle but more granular in details. Microsofts latest SQL licensing follows similarly. So clearly, performance/CPU and especially per core matters in driving down licensing costs.
  • Michael REMY - Sunday, February 23, 2014 - link

    that would have be very good to test this cpu on 3D rendering benchmark.
    i can imagine the gain of time in a workstation...even the cost will be nearest a renderfarm...
    but comparing this xeon to other one in that situation should have bring a view point.
  • JohanAnandtech - Sunday, February 23, 2014 - link

    What rendering engine are you thinking about? Most engines scale badly beyond 16-32 threads

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