Memory Scaling on Core i7 - Is DDR3-1066 Really the Best Choice?
by Gary Key on June 24, 2009 9:00 AM EST- Posted in
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We remember paying over $600 for 2GB of DDR3-1600 C7 rated at 1.90V almost two years ago. About nine months ago, when Core i7 launched a DDR3-1600 C7 6GB 1.65V kit cost us $415. A DDR3-1600 C7 1.65V 6GB kit cost us $140 last week. To add insult to injury, a recently purchased DDR3-1600 C9 1.65V 6GB kit set us back $86 compared to the $195 we paid four months ago. To say things have changed in the DDR3 memory market over the past two years would be an understatement.
In today’s testing, we did our best to utilize retail kits from various manufacturers based on their stock speed and timing ratings for each of our memory settings. We felt this was a better choice than taking a DDR3-2000 kit and using it at different speeds and timings as that would not represent what the actual product for sale at these price points are capable of in our test system. Of course, we violated this principal twice but for good reason. There are not any 1066 C5 kits so we bumped the voltage slightly on the Patriot 1066 C7 kit to run at these timings. Our 1866 C7 kit became incapacitated and we switched to a 2000 C8 kit that actually cost less and performed better.
The price levels listed represent our cost from Newegg at the time of purchase. Of course, prices for 6GB kits vary widely depending on the manufacturer, rebates, specifications, and product availability so consider these prices to represent a current aggregate average. We fully realize that purchasing a DDR3-2000 CAS8 kit for $235 that is capable of running DDR3-1866 C7 at like voltages is usually a better value than a $289 1866 C7 kit. Kit prices range from $80 for the DDR3-1066 C7 kit up to the $260 DDR3-2000 C8 modules for this article.
Our lead off contestant is the Patriot DDR3-1066 C7 PSD36G1066KH 6GB kit that we utilized for both the 1066 C7 and C5 results. This memory kit only required 1.60V for CAS5 operation and comes in at the low price of $80. For those operating on a strict budget, we cannot say enough good things about this kit as it easily reached DDR3-1600 C9 on 1.65V and 1.225V VTT. Speaking of DDR3-1600 C9 kits, we are now seeing these 6GB kits below $90 and if they arrive with the right IC/PCB combination, they could potentially make a great kit for down clocking to 1333 C6, which is one of our sweet spot settings for overall performance on this platform.
We tapped Corsair for our DDR3-1333 C9 kit, SuperTalent for the DDR3-1333 C8 modules, and GEIL for our DDR3-1333 C7/C6 kits. We turned to Patriot once again for DDR3-1600 C9, OCZ for a really great DDR3-1600 C8 setup, Corsair for DDR3-1600 C7, and Mushkin for one sweet DDR3-1600 C6 package. We utilized GSkill’s DDR3-2000 C8 kit for our DDR3-1866 C7 and limited overclock results. We will be reviewing each kit utilized shortly (and others) to determine the overall best value based on clocking abilities, technical support, warranty, and cost.
Memory Designations –
One of the more confusing aspects of selecting DDR3 memory are the two common designations, which are both technically wrong. The first commonly used term describes the theoretical bandwidth, as in PC16000. This numbering system represents the peak transfer rate in MB/s of the module. The other common designation describes the effective clock speed in terms like 2000MHz. If the product description does not contain the effective clock speed and you only see a number like PC8500, then divide it by eight. Therefore, through the magic of math and marketing, PC8500 becomes 1066MHz.
Of course, this is not the actual clock speed, but rather the data rate. In other words, while PC8500 sounds extremely impressive and 1066MHz just a little less so, the actual operating frequency of the DDR3 devices is much less. There is a history on why we have these inflated numbers as it dates back to the time of RAMBUS, but that is a story for another article. We just wish that the memory suppliers would pick one designation and go with it. In the meantime, we will report our numbers today in effective data rate for simplicity state. We will refer to DDR3-1066 5-5-5-18 as simply 1066 C5 as an example.
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sonci - Thursday, June 25, 2009 - link
The title was enough,and yours is too..
goinginstyle - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
I have no idea where you have been hiding Gary but it is great to see you back. I look forward to the AMD article and the individual module tests. If they are half as good as this, I will be one happy person. Any chance or comments on Virtualization benches under WIn7 with XP?duploxxx - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
very nice article with real world applications, now can you pls do the same with amount of dimms used and finally kill this marketing hype?vailr - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
Re:"Current JDEC specifications list 1.50V as the official voltage specification for DDR3 with a move to 1.35V in the near future and eventually to 1.20V."
How does DDR5 (already being used on some video cards) voltages compare with those numbers?
Any predictions on when DDR5 memory modules for main boards might be introduced?
Are lower latency DDR3 modules "in the works"?
Maybe such a thing as:
1333 MHz @4-4-4-12 & 1.20v, for example?
Also: Intel promotes the benefits of using Hafnium when producing their CPU's. Would Hafnium also benefit memory chips?
GourdFreeMan - Thursday, June 25, 2009 - link
The video cards you are thinking of use GDDR, not DDR. You will never find GDDR packaged on DIMMs for motherboard memory slots, but rather only as individual chips for graphics boards and consoles. Though they share some technologies, you would need a different memory controller to make use of it. Typically GDDR5 runs from 1V to 1.4V (the GDDR5 on the stock Radeon HD 4770 runs at 1.263V for example). Hafnium dioxide has already been used by some manufacturers as the dielectric material in DRAM capacitors, and I know NEC, at least, has already used Hafnium in transistor gates for embedded DRAM. As for higher speed and lower latency RAM, that is pretty much always in the works...Zorlac - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
I have thought this all along, but was too lazy to prove it. Thanks Anand!!! :)Any idea when we will start seeing 4GB DIMMs for running 3x4GB kits?
Gary Key - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
We just finished testing a 12GB 1600 C9 kit from Kingston, but the street price is $1400. I also have a 24GB kit from Corsair, but I will not even mention the cost on that one. We should see affordable (compared to buying 6x2GB) 12GB kits later this year in the 1333 C8 variety without ECC. I do have a 12GB ECC Kingston 1066 C8 kit arriving shortly, retail is about $320, to test in some workstation products.DXRick - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
It looks like the sweet spot is 1600 C8 at around $100 for a 6BG kit.vol7ron - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
agreed --- those saying 1333 really are saving the buckI would still like to see SuperPi tests, since they are a mathematical approach to memory performance.
Gary Key - Wednesday, June 24, 2009 - link
Super Pi results will come in Raja's 2000 shootout. However, most of the Super Pi program runs in cache and when it goes outside of it,it only hits a couple of ranks in short bursts (why bandwidth matters) and as a result a proper loading of the entire memory subsystem is not really tested thoroughly. That said, we will have a complete subsection on Super Pi for the overclocking crowd. :)