We still haven’t had any official announcements from Samsung regarding the Note20 series as of yet, expecting the company to only reveal the new phone series sometime in early to mid-August if past release dates are any indications. Yet in a surprise blunder, the company has managed to publicly upload two product images of the upcoming Note20+ or Ultra (naming uncertain) on one of its Ukrainian pages.

Whilst we usually don’t report on leaks or unofficial speculations as part of our editorial standards – a first party blunder like this is very much an exception to the rule.

The leak showcases the seemingly bigger sibling of the Note20 series as it features the full camera housing and seemingly same modules as the Galaxy S20 Ultra. There’s been a design aesthetic change as the cameras are now accentuated by a ring element around the lenses, making the modules appear more consistent with each other, even though there’s still clearly different sized lenses along with the rectangular periscope zoom module. The images showcase actual depth on the part of the ring elements, so they may extend in three dimensions.

The new gold/bronze colour also marks a return for Samsung for such a more metallic option.

We expect the Note20 series to be a minor hardware upgrade over the S20 devices, with the most defining characteristic naturally being the phone’s integrated S-Pen stylus.

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Source: Samsung Ukraine (Removed by now)

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  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    I've thought long and hard about it.

    I'm not switching to wireless headphones, that's just not happening. I'll just stop using a smartphone at that point.

    What you want is 1) to be able to charge and listen to music at the same time. And 2) to have the port be completely waterproof.

    Either keep both headphone jack and USB-C and make them both waterproof, or replace them both with much better ports.

    With this in mind, two shallow ports. With very large pins similar to an inductive charger, easy to clean out debris or water, and easily sealed from the internals of the phone. Flat connector surface that lays flush against the phone, magnets to hold in place like a MagSafe or smartwatch or something. Need 4 pins for audio and at least 4 for USB. Pretty sure even stuff like video streaming and 60w charging could work over 4 wires or maybe 8, although it might require new standards.
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  • 3DoubleD - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Technically, you can wirelessly charge and use USB-C for headphones.

    I actually had my USB-C port wear out on my S8+ after 3 years, so the idea of plugging headphones in there as well as a charging cable seems to be a bad idea (I used top end cables too). To mitigate the shoddy USB-C port I bought a bunch of wireless chargers and now that I've fixed it I only use the USB-C port for Android Auto and the odd time I need a Quick Charge.
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  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Yes, wireless charging + USBc audio is one possible solution. It works right now. But then you need to carry a little wireless charging clip everywhere, and charge rate isn't ideal.

    See Vivo Apex 2019 (the portless white one). A simple clip-on chargeport would work with both a charge cable, and a dock (eliminating need for wireless charging). At max speeds.

    Could even work with a popsocket (some people swear by them).
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  • trivik12 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    I wont recommend using these fast charging phones while charging. Not sure that is ideal at all. You are better off getting a battery case and then no reason to use it while charging. Another option is wireless charger. You can still charge and use the phone to hear music.

    Also at this point you have pretty good Bluetooth headphones. Galaxy Buds+, jabra elite 75, sony bluetooth(both TWS and over the ear) are all excellent.

    That said I like to have an option for wired one as well. I will probably get usb-c cable for my IEM(Blon BL-03).
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  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    It's not about space at all. The total space for the whole internal headphone jack module is a tiny fraction of the volume of your battery.

    You end up sacrificing the headphone jack to have room for maybe 50-100mah of extra battery... Which gets run down as soon as you listen to music over Bluetooth headphones.

    It's about encouraging people to buy branded wireless earbuds, it's a multi-billion dollar business on its own.
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  • s.yu - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    Yeah you said what I was gonna say. Space is an extremely lousy excuse. It's despicable greed. Reply
  • SteveX107 - Monday, July 6, 2020 - link

    It may be also a way to save money on a component which the majority of consumer doesn't consider when choosing a smartphone. Reply
  • s.yu - Tuesday, July 7, 2020 - link

    Save a few cents? Because that analog port only costs a few cents per unit, while outputting audio at a quality no BT solution can match. And no, it's not "a component which the majority of consumer doesn't consider" because as you can see the trend of castrating functions goes from the top down, AFAICT all phones midrange or below still have the jack(with Apple as the sole exception), and the majority of consumers don't buy flagships. They know it's easier to con flagship users out of their money and that's what they've taken to. Reply
  • flyingpants265 - Friday, July 3, 2020 - link

    That looks pretty good, if it were made properly and not easily knocked out of place. Reply
  • TheinsanegamerN - Monday, July 6, 2020 - link

    "obsolete"

    That doesnt mean what you think it means. Old /= outdated. It's still the standard int he industry for a reason. Type C is not an audio standard, and wireless headphones are still to this day inferior despite years of development.

    Motorola has been moving ot thicker phones with bigger batteries, and started turning a profit despite lower prices. That is what consumers want, not this stupid thinness war. And until a type C port allows you to charge and play music at the same time without a dongle, it will be an inferior solution.
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