Synthetic Benchmarks

Our Nocona server was setup in a remote location with little access, so we had limited time to run as many real world benchmarks as we are typically accustomed to. Fortunately, there are multitudes of synthetic benchmarks that we can use to deduce information quickly and constructively.

Sieve of Atkin (primegen)

Primegen is an older, but still useful library for generating prime numbers in order using the Sieve of Atkin. We compiled the Bernstein implementation by simply running "make". We ran the program as so:

# time ./primes 1 100000000000 > /dev/null

primegen 0.97

We found the benchmark to be extremely reliable and we replicated our figures continually with less than 1% difference.

Super Pi

We ran the Linux compilation of Super Pi 2.0, which is a closed source application. We are not aware of which optimizations are compiled with the program and we are prohibited from redistributing the binaries. Please download the latest binaries from ftp://pi.super-computing.org/Linux. We ran the command:

# ./super_pi 20

Below is the program's output of calculation time in number of seconds.

Super Pi 2.0

After re-running the program several times, our benchmarks never deviated outside of 1%. In a mathematical operation-only situation, the Intel processor has outpaced the AMD offering twice now.

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  • dke - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    Hi, I just read this comparison between
    the Xeon 3.6 (Nocona) and the Athlon 64 3500+. This is from an e-mail I sent out earlier today and I didn't want to re-write it again. Here it is:
    "I started reading
    AnandTech's article and noticed that on the third page they have a
    little note that says:
    "Our Nocona server was setup in a remote location with little access,
    so we had limited time to run as many real world benchmarks as we are
    typically accustomed to. Fortunately, there are multitudes of
    synthetic benchmarks that we can use to deduce information quickly and
    constructively."
    This seems to contradict the statements they made in the first
    paragraph of the first page of the review:
    "... we found ourselves fairly entertained to come into the possession
    of a 3.6GHz EM64T Xeon processor. ..."
    What does that mean?
    Unless I am not understanding this correctly, is sounds like
    AnandTech's reviewers didn't have local access to the computer that
    they were using to benchmark the Nocona. Does that mean that they
    didn't have local access to the computer for [any] of their benchmarks,
    or only the synthetic ones? If that's true, I don't think this can be
    a trusted review. Who would setup a Nocona server for AnandTech to
    "review"? Intel? I can see that...
    Intel: "we equipped this machine with the following specs, xxxxxx. we
    promise..."
    Right.
    This article just seems questionable to me, and I remain fairly
    skeptical about how accurate this review/comparison is. If AnandTech
    didn't have local access to the machine, how can anyone be certain
    that the system's specs are what AnandTech claims they are? How can
    AnandTech's reviewers themselves be certain? [The benchmarks given in this comparison do not duplicate previous benchmarks using the same hardware as well as the same benchmarking software.] It's not that I think
    AnandTech is feeding us misinformation, but I question the information
    given to them by this mysterious third party [who has local access to
    the machine?]."

    I just don't understand and I would like an official response from AnandTech. I don't care to hear Intel fangirls respond to my question. They don't know anything more than I do. I can read enough sarcasm and smart-arse comments on this board without any new sarcastic responses to this post.

    Thank you.

    David K.
  • ThunderPC - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    Nice way to generate site hits by making the entire "techy" world come by for a good dose of laughter at the "comparison".
  • Graphic67 - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    Keep in mind that Mr. Kubicki is the "Senior Display, Optical Storage and Linux Editor" and from a listing of available articles he has not done a CPU review before.

    AnandTech had a reputation of quality over quantity (or speed) which made the articles that much more worthwhile to read. "Quick and dirty" as an earlier post called this review is a phrase which would normally not be applicable to an AnandTech posting.
  • ThunderPC - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    Like everyone else has said, the worst review I have seen since boycotting Tom's hardware. I am completely unbiased on processor manufacturer, and have a relatively new Intel and AMD system. That being said, why the #$%( are we comparing these two processors? How much did Intel pay you to do such a lopsided test? I have a Kyro video card sitting in a box if you care to test it against a 6800 :D
  • snorre - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    This bad review really have created a big buzz. People are debating it heavily over at Ace's Hardware:
    http://www.aceshardware.com/forum?read=115093783

    This review should never have been published, and if it dosen't get removed of fixed soon Anandtech will for ever lose its credibility and join the line of biased sites like Tom's Hardware & Extreme Tech.
  • Viditor - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    johnsonx - "The memory thing too.... if the benchmarks in question don't need more than 1Gb of ram, then why isn't 1Gb enough? Is there some magic of 64-bit systems where having 13267432Gb of RAM somehow makes them faster? Of course not."

    A reasonable question...
    The reason that memory is questioned is that the Nocona has no hardware IOMMU. This means that when using larger amounts of memory (3 Gig+), the Nocona (and all other EMT64 chips) will actually start to slow down.
  • schemer - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    AnandTech! Did you try benchmarking KristopherKubicki against a Blonde?
  • coldpower27 - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link


    I believe benching the Opteron 150, would have been a fairer choice like I said.

    I also don't beleive the 512KB of cache vs 1Mb of cache holds any water, because of the fact that the Netburst Prescott has to make due with 16KB of LV1 cache while the Athlon 64 gets 128KB of it which is 8 times more :S

    I am also not all that sure if the Opteron 150 will be all that much faster then the Athlon 64 3500+ considering it has to work with registered memory and 600MHZ HT.

    Comparing AMD's K8's and Intel Netburst Architecture has been always Apples to Oranges. you couldn't really compare Apples to Apples anyway with how different these 2 architectures are.
  • mkruer - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    to add more flamebait, you got to love this quote
    "Since the excuse to not compare Athlon 64s to Intel Pentium based processors has always been "you can't compare apples to oranges,""

    so now hes comparing oranges to apples.

  • Snoop - Monday, August 9, 2004 - link

    Kristopher,
    Are you going to defend this article? It seems that your silence to these charges speaks for itself. If you cannot dispute these claims, then remove the article.

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