Radeon RX Vega Unveiled: AMD Announces $499 RX Vega 64 & $399 RX Vega 56, Launching August 14thby Ryan Smith on July 30, 2017 10:30 PM EST
At this point, one must give credit to AMD for their marketing program for the Radeon RX Vega. The company has opted to drip feed information over many months, and as a result this has kept the public interested in the architecture and consumer RX Vega cards. Since it was by name back in the spring of 2016, we’ve had architecture previews, product teasers, and even a new Frontier Editions to tide us over. Suffice it to say, there’s a great deal of fascination in finally seeing the products AMD has been beating the drums about for so long.
To that end, there’s good news today and there’s bad news today. In the interest of expediency, I may as well start with the bad news: today is not the launch day for the Radeon RX Vega. In fact, only right before this embargo expired did AMD even announce a launch date: August 14th. So for reviews, performance analyses, and of course purchasing, everyone will have to hold on just a bit longer.
The good news then is that even if today isn’t the Radeon RX Vega launch, AMD is finally making significant progress towards it by announcing the cards, the specifications, and the pricing. Gamers may not be able to buy the cards quite yet, but everyone is going to have some time to size up the situation before the proper launch of the cards next month. Overall this situation is very similar to the unveiling of the Radeon R9 290 series, where AMD announced the cards at a product showcase before launching them the following month.
So without further ado, let’s dive into the Radeon RX Vega family of cards and their specifications.
|AMD Radeon RX Series Specification Comparison|
|AMD Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid||AMD Radeon RX Vega 64||AMD Radeon RX Vega 56||AMD Radeon R9 Fury X|
|Memory Clock||1.89Gbps HBM2||1.89Gbps HBM2||1.6Gbps HBM2||1Gbps HBM|
|Memory Bus Width||2048-bit||2048-bit||2048-bit||4096-bit|
|Manufacturing Process||GloFo 14nm||GloFo 14nm||GloFo 14nm||TSMC 28nm|
|Architecture||GCN 5||GCN 5||GCN 5||GCN 3|
|GPU||Vega 10||Vega 10||Vega 10||Fiji|
All told, AMD will be releasing 3 different RX Vega cards. All 3 cards are based on the same GPU, Vega 10, which powers the already released Radeon Vega Frontier Edition. So if you’re familiar with that card, then you should have an idea of what to expect here.
The top of AMD’s lineup is the Radeon RX Vega 64 Liquid Cooled Edition. This is a fully enabled Vega 10 card and it has the highest clockspeeds and highest power requirements of the stack. All told, this is 64 CUs, 64 ROPs, boosting to 1677MHz, and paired with 8GB of HBM2 memory clocked at 1.89Gbps. Typical board power for the card is rated at 345W. To cool such a card, you of course will want liquid cooling, and living up to the name the card, AMD has included just that, thanks to a pump and 120mm radiator.
The second member of AMD’s lineup is the shorter-named vanilla Radeon RX Vega 64. Unlike its liquid cooled predecessor, this is a traditional blower-type air cooled card. And for the purposes of AMD’s product stack, the company is treating the vanilla Vega 64 as the “baseline” card for the Vega 64 family. This means that the company’s performance projections are based on this card, and not the higher-clocked liquid cooled card.
The vanilla Vega 64 utilizes the same fully enabled Vega 10 GPU, with 64 CUs and 64 ROPs. The card’s reduced cooling capacity goes hand-in-hand with slightly lower clockspeeds of 1247MHz base and 1546MHz boost. Paired up with the Vega GPU itself is the same 8GB of HBM2 as on the liquid cooled card, still running at 1.89Gbps for 484GB/sec of memory bandwidth. Finally, this card ships with a notably lower TBP than the liquid cooled card, bringing it down by 50W to 295W.
Meanwhile, unlike any of the other cards in the RX Vega family, the Vega 64 will come in two shroud design options. AMD’s reference shroud is a plastic/rubber design similar to what we saw on the reference Radeon RX 480 launched last year. AMD will also have a “limited edition” version of the card with the same hardware specifications, but replacing the rubber shroud with a brushed aluminum shroud, very similar to the one found on the Vega Frontier Edition. Though it’s important to note that the only difference between these two cards is the material of the shroud; the cards are otherwise identical, PCBs, performance, cooling systems, and all.
On that note, AMD has only released a limited amount of information on the cooler design of the Vega 64, which is of particular interest as it’s an area where AMD struggled on the R9 290 and RX 480 series. We do know that the radial fan is larger, now measuring 30mm in radius (60mm in diameter). The fan in turn is responsible for cooling a heatsink that’s attached to the Vega 10 GPU + memory package via a vapor chamber, a typical design choice for high performance, high TDP video cards.
Finally, the last member of the RX Vega family is the Radeon RX Vega 56. The obligatory cut-down member of the group, this card gets a partially disabled version of the Vega 10 GPU with only 56 of 64 CUs enabled. On the clockspeed front, this card also sees reduced GPU and memory clockspeeds; the GPU runs at 1156MHz base and 1471MHz boost, while the HBM2 memory runs at 1.6Gbps (for 410GB/sec of memory bandwidth). Following the traditional cut-down card model, this lower performing card is also lower power – and quite possibly the most power efficient RX Vega card – with a 210W TDP, some 85W below the Vega 64. Meanwhile, other than its clockspeed the card’s HBM2 memory is untouched, shipping with the same 8GB of memory as the other RX Vega members.
Moving on, perhaps the burning question for many readers now that they have the specifications in hand is expected performance, and this is something of a murky area. AMD has published some performance slides for the Vega 64, but they haven’t taken the time to extensively catalog what they see as the competition for the card and where the RX Vega family fits into that. Instead, what we’ve been told is to expect the Vega 64 to “trade blows” with NVIDIA’s GeForce GTX 1080.
In terms of numbers, the few numbers that the company has published have focused on minimum framerates over average framerates, opting to emphasize smoothness and the advantage they believe to have over the aforementioned GTX 1080. As always, competitive numbers should be taken with a (large) grain of salt, but for the time being this is the best guidance we have on what to expect for the RX Vega family’s performance.
Otherwise for the Vega 64 Liquid and Vega 56, we don’t have any other performance figures. Expect the former to outperform the air cooled Vega 64 – though perhaps not massively – while the Vega 56 will come in notably lower.
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lordken - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkexactly this! I was like wtf after reading that first lines, had to triple check if reading AT article...calling this marketing disaster,fiasco, failure something worth of giving praise is duh huh beyond ridiculousness.
I think marketing did more damage to the card than poor engineering. Problem is they did hype it beyond craziness with stellar architecture stellar performance for something that's product between 1070-1080 for higher price, the hypetrain hit the rock wall, hard.
I'm pretty sure that most of fans and enthusiasts that did follow Vega since early beginning take this Vega for failure. So if PR fools wouldn't overhype the shit out of this card , and treat it like normal product, it could be taken as decent 1070/1080 alternative that came year later but still able to deliver some competition to NVidia...
So in this light personally I see it even worse than "overclocker's dream" Fury...
Not to mention all the ppl that pulled trigger on 1080/ti that couldn't wait anymore for idiots at AMD PR that delayed delayed and without any relevant information.
...and someone calls the marketing team competent...
Morawka - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - linkSo TomsHardware is already confirming that VEGA 64 is slower than even a Vanilla GTX 1080, much less than a 1080Ti. It probably won't be far behind a gtx 1080, but they are trying to charge $600 for it, so i don't see them doing well with this card unless it mines like a republican in west virginia
Enlows1 - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkno no no no it's 600$ for the bundle which gives you a 64 air cooled vega card a ryzen 7 cpu a curved samsung monitor that is 3440 * 1440 a mother board and 2 games now that is what you call a fucking steal m8
nevcairiel - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkThats not what the bundles give you. They give you games, sure, but both AMD and NVIDIA do that all the time.
The other things are just small discounts on those products, you don't get all that for $600.
HAILHOFF - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkNah you just get discounts on the other items, $100 off a CPU motherboard Combo and $200 off a $900 Moniter and two free games. Pretty mediocore if you ask me. I was patiently waiting for Vega but this is just ridiculous, It makes more sense to buy a 1060 and wait for Nvidia's new cards cause they will reck Vega.
Ferrari_Freak - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkAnd it seems that monitor discount is only for North America, Australia, and Singapore. Everyone else will only get the games and Ryzen discount.
Walletripper - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkNo their not. Tom's hardware does NOT have an RX Vega.
sorten - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkConfirming? Did they steal an engineering sample?
IanHagen - Monday, July 31, 2017 - linkAnd how is it that they've "confirmed" it without actually having a RX Vega?
Stuka87 - Sunday, July 30, 2017 - linkAny word on Vega 11?